Comments on: CPUC releases new NEM 3.0 proposal almost one year after the first https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/11/cpuc-releases-new-nem-proposal/ Covering the world of solar power technology, development and installation. Mon, 19 Dec 2022 22:21:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2 By: S https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/11/cpuc-releases-new-nem-proposal/#comment-138700 Mon, 19 Dec 2022 22:21:25 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100430#comment-138700 In reply to Cj.

My God people… Do you not see that Newsom is backed by the utilities! So he backs them!!! Remember their big private maskless dinner party during the Covid mask mandate period? So understand, Newsom is not all about renewables but about the power that comes from saying he is and the manipulation of power he gains from stating he is aligned with renewables yet behind closed doors he’s protecting the utilities at every corner. Just look at the States semi confusing bail outs for the wild fire legal issues, allowing the CPUC to be run by the utilities (which is filled with Utility Company Directors), and excessive regulations which hurt the renewable industry and installers as well. There is power in positioning with an ideological movement that can be used even against that movement.
EXAMPLE: The CPUC created a Solar Consumer Disclosure form required for interconnection. Its sounds and reads like it’s designed to protected consumers against predatory solar companies but what it really did was suggest that Large Corporate companies be selected and guided homeowners away from small contractors who could really drop the cost of solar. Keep in mind that most of the Large National Corporate Solar Companies us the same technicians. In effect it made Corporate Large Solar the only suggested option, yet these guys are the predators who use crafty ways to over charge, ie Hybrid Leases, Hybrid Loan/leases and certainly PPA’s (big corporate money). These Large Corp companies had their liability regarding predatory practices covered via this required form. It directed Solar PV customers towards conglomerates that charge $3.50 to $5.00 per watt and basically signed away a persons ability to claim predatory practices. All while small contractors could do quite well charging $2.75-$3.00 per watt using top quality equipment. This is not a free market supporting bureaucracy.

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By: Ben Hanvey https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/11/cpuc-releases-new-nem-proposal/#comment-138688 Mon, 19 Dec 2022 01:18:23 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100430#comment-138688 So SDG&E will pay me $0.03 cents per KWH that my solar over produces during the day and sell it back to me that night for $.30 per KWH. That is a 1000 percent markup on cost. If that is not usury what is? Please let me in on that business plan.

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By: William Day https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/11/cpuc-releases-new-nem-proposal/#comment-138667 Sat, 17 Dec 2022 04:44:51 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100430#comment-138667 Stop NEM 3, CPUC has sold out!

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By: Solarman https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/11/cpuc-releases-new-nem-proposal/#comment-138321 Sat, 19 Nov 2022 17:23:37 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100430#comment-138321 In reply to Matt.

Matt I see your point and I see the extortionist path the CPUC is trying to allow to satiate the IOU electric utilities in California, where the term Califronia Public Utilities (Commission) is supposed to be an ombudsman for the retail energy user, not the utility in a biased and improper manner. What the consumer is missing is (specific) information on how (their) particular household uses energy, how much and at what hours this occurs. I believe there are such monitors available for the homeowner to apply or have some electrician install one of the more expensive monitors that have current transformers that snap around the main buss bars in the house electrical panel. With the proper programming and enough memory one can not only monitor when an appliance comes on, but how long it stays on and it is possible to map surge values of appliances and when they occur over a period of time. (This) is the information one needs to determine how much and (when) one would use a smart ESS to help power the home to keep electricity costs down. A 20kWh ESS seems to be a nominal all around system capacity for most residential applications. Many early adopters have up to 40kWh of ESS storage and capacity.

There comes a time, where the homeowner stops worrying about ROI of their solar PV system or solar PV and ESS as the utility creates tiered electricity blocks of use, then turns around and creates a TOU period of rate spiking for 5 hours every day and now to protect their egregious practice of choosing dividends over O&M of the system that feeds your house, they get to turn your power off for hours or maybe even days when a PSPS is invoked. The thing to worry about now is “just how important is resiliency” in your own home’s A.C. use and capacity every day?

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By: Jason https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/11/cpuc-releases-new-nem-proposal/#comment-138299 Fri, 18 Nov 2022 00:43:12 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100430#comment-138299 In reply to ScottC.

well, Newsom responded to the outcry last year, when he was up for reelection. The fact that they announced this 2 days after the election suggests to me that he’s already onboard with the revised proposal and the vote next month is a rubber stamping exercise.

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By: Jeremy P. https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/11/cpuc-releases-new-nem-proposal/#comment-138297 Thu, 17 Nov 2022 22:29:00 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100430#comment-138297 Kelsey, please do more homework on the “glidepath” piece. The way you write about it here, you make it seem reasonable, or even “fine.” It is far from fine. The “glidepath” in this new version of NEM3 is terrible for homeowners, terrible for solar companies, and terrible for our industry and the push to reach 100% renewable energy in CA. The reduction in the export compensation is a 75% decrease, immediately once NEM3 is implemented. That is not a glidepath, that is “going over a cliff,” and a severe, unnecessary, despicable reduction in the export value. A true glidepath would have taken where the export value is today (between $.21 and $.30/kWh in PG&E, depending on the person’s current rate plan), and reduced that gradually, over 5-10 years. For example, $.18 the first year, $.16 the 2nd year, $.14 the 3rd year, etc.

We should be pushing back hard as solar advocates on this insulting “glidepath” that was presented by the CPUC members, and encouraging Gov. Newsom to step in and correct this travesty.

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By: Scott Johnston https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/11/cpuc-releases-new-nem-proposal/#comment-138245 Tue, 15 Nov 2022 00:10:32 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100430#comment-138245 If they pass this they will truly show where they stand as far as the general public goes and their ability to remain self seficient as everything in California as far as billing goes is now extremely exaggerated as in prices are way over what the actual value of service or cost of product. It’s beyond rediculous and fully shows that our government needs to be extremely limited in what it’s able to do and that there needs to be some sort of a board of people from each monitary class as they are considered to actually decide these things as our government from bottom up has greatly show their detachment from reality. Our so called president is the prime example and that anything he has done or is doing leaves nothing good for citizens just leaves us with a fowl taste and horrible stench of what’s to come so to speak.

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By: Matt https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/11/cpuc-releases-new-nem-proposal/#comment-138235 Sun, 13 Nov 2022 18:45:11 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100430#comment-138235 I think for home owners with solar (I have a 5kW system myself)… I think for us its a bit of a mixed bag. Clearly the intent is to increase the differential between off-peak and on-peak import prices, to create a disincentive for pushing power back to the grid, and to create an incentive for load shifting and net-zeroing with a home battery system.

For me it depends significantly on just how much lower the off-peak pricing would be. I don’t have a home battery system but there are certainly poor-man’s solutions using power stations that I could use to easily load-shift a few hundred watts of power.

But the new proposal has a number of warts. The biggest one is that the peak period starts at 3pm when the actual utility peak is more around 7pm. At a minimum the proposal should be changed to adjust the peak period start time to 5pm. 3pm is absurd. The new proposal also low-balls export prices while generously increasing import prices on a wider time frame. For example, peak export pricing doesn’t get interesting until 7pm-9pm, but import pricing starts at 3pm and maximizes at 4pm. That is also absurd in my view.

-Matt

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By: TLC https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/11/cpuc-releases-new-nem-proposal/#comment-138228 Sat, 12 Nov 2022 03:51:47 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100430#comment-138228 Installed solar in September 2014, I am in NEM1 with PGE. Was told I would be grandfathered for 20 years from time system received permit to operate from PGE THAT WAS A BIG FING LIE!!!! Just received letter from PGE that NEM1 customers on E6 rate plan HAVE to change plans. In other word’s nem1 e6 customers were ALL LIED TO. How many bribes were paid to CPUC employees to get them to agree to this??? Won’t be the 1st time one of them has accepted a bribe now will it?

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By: ScottC https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/11/cpuc-releases-new-nem-proposal/#comment-138227 Sat, 12 Nov 2022 02:28:13 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100430#comment-138227 In reply to DB.

Did you read the article? The last NEM 3.0 proposal went down in flames in part because Newsom was aggressively against it. He wants solar to be affordable. He wants more of it. Your reply makes no sense, it’s just a hyper-partisan rant.

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By: Jeffery E Flud https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/11/cpuc-releases-new-nem-proposal/#comment-138219 Fri, 11 Nov 2022 14:48:31 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100430#comment-138219 Simple fix….we shut off our solar on the 15th of November. If everyone turns it off ( there’s a switch for repairs) we can send a message. Personally no one has explained how I’m getting charged per kw for something that I own. Who is expected to do repairs or upgrades as needed? If this passes big utility will have stolen 25-30k from every solar owner and the government is allowing it. We will cut our losses and have our removed if this does pass.

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By: Cj https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/11/cpuc-releases-new-nem-proposal/#comment-138216 Fri, 11 Nov 2022 12:42:26 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100430#comment-138216 So they submitted this to the judge on nov.4, 2022, meeting on nov.16, this noticed released for public announcement nov 10. If you have comments and wish to be heard you must submit request on nov. 9 cut off at 2pm. And the judge signs off with her seal of approval. Do the dates even make sense. The governor needs to fire everyone in the cpuc. There is no room for their clouded judgements. Most of cpuc members come from pge and other large utility companies. These matters that affect the lives of the public does not belong to utility executives. These positions need to be voted in and their decisions need to be submitted to congress or local government with further voting.

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By: Dean Burnett https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/11/cpuc-releases-new-nem-proposal/#comment-138214 Fri, 11 Nov 2022 08:42:48 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100430#comment-138214 The new CPUC release appears to be another CPUC effort to help PG&E in it’s effort to squash rooftop solar.
There is no difference in the electricity generated using rooftop solar and the electricity generated in a commercial solar farm. Why should the rooftop generator not receive the same renumeration for a given quantity of electricity as does a commercial generation company.
We have been told the reason for the time of day premium is supposedly due to be the high demand taxed the grid. We also have been told that we need to really need to worry when we have a very hot day, because the demand is too great. Rooftop solar was credited with being the reason the grid was able to meet the need on the day the temperature hit 116 degrees this past summer.
PG&E has extended it’s use of the Diablo nuclear facility because they can’t meet California’s electricity needs.
To me these are examples of reasons the CPUC should stop bowing to the wishes of PG&E. They should realize that the rooftop solar panels will allow us to reduce use of fossil fuel more quickly as well as meeting the electricity needs of the state of California. The should also realize that electricity is the same regardless of where, or by whom it is generated therefore the entity responsible for generating the electricity should receive the same renumeration for the generation of the electricity. Stop bowing to the desires ofsPG&E.

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By: DB https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/11/cpuc-releases-new-nem-proposal/#comment-138213 Fri, 11 Nov 2022 07:25:24 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100430#comment-138213 I think that the California’s Economy is about to Collapse and be unlivable because of the Democratic Taxation and Insane inefficiency in Energy demands. How does making Solar less Cost effective help California or it’s Citizens? Time to Impeach Newsom again?

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By: stephan Kuttner https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/11/cpuc-releases-new-nem-proposal/#comment-138210 Fri, 11 Nov 2022 00:16:51 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100430#comment-138210 Glide path? A reduction of credits by 75% will crash the market.

This CPUC proposal makes sense only from a private utility shareholder perspective. Clean energy with a 120% markup for utility transmission and delivery – rather than distributed generation of clean energy located near users – makes no sense to the rest of us!

Regulatory capture, pay to play, and the continued undermining of the clean energy market on behalf Citizens (Shareholders Only) United empowered oligarchs really would look ugly for California politics, and those in leadership here.

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