The truck with the extended range battery comes with the charger!

No thanks.

I’m having a local electrician install the necessary infrastructure in my house and just buying the charger from Ford. I’ll pass on a national outfit sending someone to monkey with my house or try to upsell me on solar (I live in trees, kinda pointless anyway). This information blackout strategy is borderline irritating.

So far I have found nothing available, like an installation manual to explain the parts and connection strategy for the 80amp charging station. Also the 80amp charger will be required to have a 100amp circuit for the charger. Solar guys will think of the 120% rule in the NEC and think, supply side tap, but we still need to isolate from the grid for the standby power.

Sun Commercial Solar.

you are not a truck person…stay away

Come to think of it, that last idea would probably not work, because I could not plug the truck into the charger and the house at the same time.

Hey Tom. I am pretty sure the chargers will run off house power (120 AC), so if your solar panels are powering the house, they will also charge your truck. These are early days, and I think a lot will fall into place over the next 8 months. I would like it if I could use my little 4KW emergency generator to charge it. Probably could do that if I plugged the small charger into the generator. All I would need then is gasoline for the generator. Not ideal, but if I had a prolonged outage, it would be nice to be able to run the whole house off a 4KW generator.

I see your point and the difference is the inverter in your car driving the motor is programmed to handle that load and (duty cycle). Regenerative braking is one such value adder. Homes on the other hand may have unbalanced circuits, pumps that draw high surge current that would max out the 9kW inverter of the vehicle. What the utilities know that is not advertised. About 9 years ago a convention of electric utility types came together and the consensus was that the alternative energy market was going to cut into their territory and the services provided will shrink to constrict revenues flow and create O&M, funding cuts. Two cases in point, California and the invocation of the PSPS and Texas and its unwillingness to forgo some dividends for infrastructure hardening. This is continuing and will only get worse as more States, and towns create their own energy mandates and town ordinances. As for solar PV and energy storage, the cost is coming down for the technology and the residential adopter is becoming more prevalent. Having a truck that could take care of a chunk of your house loads during a power outage is just another “adder” to individual energy responsibility. A new day has dawned, there are still many out there that don’t understand how bad it could get before technology, legislation and business models change to become inclusive partners in energy generation, storage and use every day.

I don’t powering your home being a problem at all and I honestly don’t understand it. My car uses around 20kw when cruising down the highway non stop, how is draining 9kw to power the home any worse than when I’m driving down the road? Especially since most people are only doing to do it in an emergency so maybe once a year or so.

Great point on the battery degradation. If Ford honors its warranty in such cases, this could prove to be a drain on Ford’s P&L.

Also of concern is the readiness of the vehicle battery after discharging during peak rate periods for TOU billing customers. The vehicle will have diminished range. Even more so during a power outage.

I can see a mother telling her children to turn off the TVs in order to preserve enough charge to drive to the grocery store.

On the other hand, I also envision employers offering free charging to their employees in exchange for the vehicle’s availability to reduce peak demand charges, which would require a fleet of connected vehicles, but operation for shorter durations of time. But fleet vehicles wouldn’t be the F150. Hopefully this is expanded to other vehicle models where these dynamics could be utilized by vehicle fleet operators.

The big thing is stated in this quote… “In the future, Ford said it will introduce “Ford Intelligent Power”, which would allow the electric truck to power homes during high-cost, peak-energy hours. That is one of a kind technology especially from the automotive world.

TESLA early on had this vision of solar PV and energy storage for each home, (then) a charging connection for a BEV, the vehicle to house proposal was not made. Ford will be the first and it seems will prove or disprove the theory that using the vehicle battery pack to power the home in emergencies will degrade the vehicle pack and it will degrade and not make a 10 year in use battery pack warranty period. After this February in Texas, there might be a lot of folks that would be okay if they had to replace a battery pack in 7 years from emergency use.