Comments on: CPUC releases final version of California’s new solar net-billing plan The NEM 3.0 debate came to an end on Dec. 15. https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/12/cpuc-releases-final-version-california-solar-net-billing-plan/ Covering the world of solar power technology, development and installation. Tue, 20 Dec 2022 04:14:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2 By: Mark Jones https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/12/cpuc-releases-final-version-california-solar-net-billing-plan/#comment-138701 Tue, 20 Dec 2022 04:14:24 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100808#comment-138701 In reply to Robert Waller.

You will be under NEM 2.0 as NEM 3.0 will not initiate for 120 days…

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By: DSL https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/12/cpuc-releases-final-version-california-solar-net-billing-plan/#comment-138677 Sun, 18 Dec 2022 00:12:00 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100808#comment-138677 Lots of valid complaints here albeing good and accurate! What is the action plan/solution?
– Protests in Sacramento?
– Flood Newsom’s office with complaints?
– Protests at local representative offices?
– Civil disobiedience – (mass witholding of partial utility payments/taxes)?
– Solicit Edison competators?
– Lobby for transition to public utilities?
– Challenge constitutionality of state laws on required use of utilities?

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By: Jason Lefkowitz https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/12/cpuc-releases-final-version-california-solar-net-billing-plan/#comment-138676 Sat, 17 Dec 2022 20:35:11 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100808#comment-138676 This is not the end all for new customers. As the utility rates continue to climb (SDGE by 20% kW rate starting 1/23); still the best way to save money and add value to your home is to get solar. If your reason for going solar is to make money at the end of the year in True-up then your needs are different than most. Sure NEM 3.0 is straight up ROBBERY, but until there is action made to stop monopolies from doing what they do, this is Commifornia.

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By: RP Scorr https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/12/cpuc-releases-final-version-california-solar-net-billing-plan/#comment-138669 Sat, 17 Dec 2022 07:04:13 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100808#comment-138669 More proof the CPUC is in the pocket of the utilities. For a state that has an energy problem, this will kill new solar in CA. Effectively doing the opposite of what they preach. Thank god I’m locked into NEM 2.0. Hope I never have to move.

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By: Robert Waller https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/12/cpuc-releases-final-version-california-solar-net-billing-plan/#comment-138666 Sat, 17 Dec 2022 02:07:12 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100808#comment-138666 In reply to David C Kinnicutt.

I have just added solar panels to my rooftop. I and waiting for SDG&E and the City of San Diego final inspection and turn up. Did I make it in NEM 2.0 plan or will I fall into the new 3.0 plan?

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By: Stanislav khaylov https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/12/cpuc-releases-final-version-california-solar-net-billing-plan/#comment-138665 Sat, 17 Dec 2022 01:48:20 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100808#comment-138665 In reply to Peter Gruchawka.

Yes its there.

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By: Melanie https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/12/cpuc-releases-final-version-california-solar-net-billing-plan/#comment-138662 Fri, 16 Dec 2022 20:46:59 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100808#comment-138662 Who wrote the proposal? Utilities? or CPUC STAFF? Did they speak with the Energy Commission folks? Did they confer with CARB staff who wrote regulations banning the sale of new gasoline powered cars in 2035? I don’t see how CA IS going TO HAVE ENOUGH ELECTRICITY TO POWER ALL THOSE EVs without more tooftop solar This is bad governance – the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing!
Melanie Marty

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By: Mark Suacci https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/12/cpuc-releases-final-version-california-solar-net-billing-plan/#comment-138653 Fri, 16 Dec 2022 14:54:43 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100808#comment-138653 There has never been a retail value for excess power onto the grid.. Any solar customer that has been on NEM1.0 or 2.0 can tell you that they have never received retail value for power sent onto the grid..
Sdge steals that energy.. they are going to tell me that they don’t profit,. I say Bullshit!
Then why are the utilities scrambling to install battery systems to suck up the power during the day only to sell back to us at night? Now the CPUC has played right into the Utilities hand.. They now get free power into the battery storage systems and pull in more profit than before.. Are you saying that we would have cheaper electric bills for all users if there was no solar? I say Bullshit! Again!
Nothing you do is going to stop For-Profit entities from trying to make profits off of homes..
I’ve had solar for 20 years. The first year I over generated $500 of electricity only to have sdge pay me $85.. They converted my credits back into kWhs and paid .05 cents.. I bought a jacuzzi and added a swimming pool to suck up all my own energy..
I’ve added a battery system and now have a $1 bill average per month..
That’s the best we will get.. Don’t forget there is a 1890 law that will not allow you to disconnect from the grid.. This too shall pass.. I hope..
Batteries are much better today and with appliances in the future will have built in battery charging for evening usage.. Technology is our saving grace..

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By: David C Kinnicutt https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/12/cpuc-releases-final-version-california-solar-net-billing-plan/#comment-138650 Fri, 16 Dec 2022 06:02:06 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100808#comment-138650 In reply to Brian Lightbody.

If you already have solar panels and are under either NEM 1.0 or 2.0 your plan does not change for 20 years. You are grandfathered under the NEM 2.0 plan. The people that try to purchase panels under the new 3.0 plan are the ones that will not benefit from solar panels.

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By: Martin Szymanski https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/12/cpuc-releases-final-version-california-solar-net-billing-plan/#comment-138647 Fri, 16 Dec 2022 04:19:12 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100808#comment-138647 Not sure what this is about. Have had solar with PGE since 2002. NM1 now is NM2. PGE always paid 3 to 4 c per Kwh at each yearly trueup. Am using TOU-D. I guess some have been getting a return similar to what they would have paid if consumed? I can see where that would be a problem if not paying a fair share of the xmission line cost that allows them to be connected.

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By: Solarman https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/12/cpuc-releases-final-version-california-solar-net-billing-plan/#comment-138644 Fri, 16 Dec 2022 01:11:18 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100808#comment-138644 It is becoming a new era of use and abuse of electricity that has been “anointed” by the very entity the CPUC that is supposed to protect residential electricity users from usury. Forcing home owners into solar PV + energy storage to offset the distributed residential solar PV generation system’s lousy 3 cents per kWh of overgeneration sent back to the grid. One is better off keeping as much of the daily energy generation as possible and time shift this for use when the local utility invokes a TOU rate spiking period after the sun goes down. The interactive micro-grid is becoming an expensive but attractive option in California. It’s starting to look like the “programs” for energy in California will sweep across the U.S. and within a decade the majority of the country may be paying on average $0.25/kWh bundled retail.

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By: Peter Gruchawka https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/12/cpuc-releases-final-version-california-solar-net-billing-plan/#comment-138643 Fri, 16 Dec 2022 01:05:39 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100808#comment-138643 Regarding the question I asked – Found it in the final decision!
(f) Step 6: Three years from the application submission, all
customers seeking to interconnect to the NEM 2.0 tariff
shall submit final building permit sign off and electrical
clearing by the authority having jurisdiction. Pacific Gas
and Electric Company, San Diego Gas & Electric Company
and Southern California Edison Company have the
discretion to apply NEM 2.0 eligibility to customers who
fail to meet this deadline due to utility-caused delays.
13. Rulemaking 20-08-020 remains open to address outstanding issues in the
Scoping Memo and continuing matters related to this decision.

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By: Peter Gruchawka https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/12/cpuc-releases-final-version-california-solar-net-billing-plan/#comment-138642 Fri, 16 Dec 2022 00:49:22 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100808#comment-138642 Can you tell me where you found “Customers that file interconnection applications before NEM 2.0 sunset are required to submit final building permit sign-off within three years to remain under NEM 2.0”? I don’t see it anywhere.

Thanks,
Pete

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By: Doug Rotermund https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/12/cpuc-releases-final-version-california-solar-net-billing-plan/#comment-138639 Thu, 15 Dec 2022 18:47:27 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100808#comment-138639 It’s alright, we should be able to live on Mars in about 40 years. Forget Earth. Big money is going to extract everything from Mother Nature while it can so which ever little boy has the most money wins.

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By: Brian Lightbody https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2022/12/cpuc-releases-final-version-california-solar-net-billing-plan/#comment-138637 Thu, 15 Dec 2022 18:08:34 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=100808#comment-138637 Thank you for the straight-forward reporting on this issue. You’re right; this new ruling is a disaster for residential, medium income families with regards to affordable solar systems on our homes. The investment I’ve made for over the past few years installing solar on my home is now negated by loss of net metering to balance out the cost of my energy use.

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