Comments on: CPUC’s proposed NEM 3.0 decision includes shift to net billing, new “transition” credit and grid-use charge https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/12/cpucs-proposed-nem-3-0-decision-includes-shift-to-net-billing-new-transition-credit-and-grid-use-charge/ Covering the world of solar power technology, development and installation. Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:31:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.2 By: Javid Poornasir https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/12/cpucs-proposed-nem-3-0-decision-includes-shift-to-net-billing-new-transition-credit-and-grid-use-charge/#comment-135782 Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:31:14 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=97013#comment-135782 In reply to Parry Jarman.

The founding fathers are rolling over in their grave

Yes, clear violations:
– yields substantial financial injuries to future solar users, but especially to current ones
– puts a hard stop on clean energy (excludes competition) in the least ‘free market’ manner
– can not be easily avoided (consumers are still required to remain on the grid)
– deception, misleading (saying NM 2.0 caused non-solar users to pay)
– deception..? will ‘grandfathered in’ also entail concurrently having multiple new fees & rates?

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By: Greg Smith https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/12/cpucs-proposed-nem-3-0-decision-includes-shift-to-net-billing-new-transition-credit-and-grid-use-charge/#comment-123691 Fri, 14 Jan 2022 20:59:24 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=97013#comment-123691 In reply to Robert.

Good strategies, however, most people cannot adjust their lifestyle to accommodate a DC home running on 120 volts. Regardless, most utilities and muni’s won’t allow a complete disconnection from their grid, and if they do, they still charge an outrageous service fee “in case” the home needs to be reconnected to their grid. Greed is the underlying issue here.

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By: Michael Ritter https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/12/cpucs-proposed-nem-3-0-decision-includes-shift-to-net-billing-new-transition-credit-and-grid-use-charge/#comment-123397 Mon, 03 Jan 2022 23:09:05 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=97013#comment-123397 Well, I can see how solar-installed folks are angry. They’re getting burned after good-faith solar investing. The issue IMO is PG&E owes over $10B as it’s emerged from its 2nd bankruptcy. And hedge funds have invested as bankruptcy bottom feeders to receive PG&E’s guaranteed cash flow from over 6.5M customers. That’s traditional life in America for us all regardless of any other consideration.

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By: Dan https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/12/cpucs-proposed-nem-3-0-decision-includes-shift-to-net-billing-new-transition-credit-and-grid-use-charge/#comment-123015 Thu, 30 Dec 2021 17:27:55 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=97013#comment-123015 In reply to Paul Leon.

100% agree. I would never have gone solar if I had to pay $8 per KW! I’d owe $60 per month! for nothing.

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By: Dan https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/12/cpucs-proposed-nem-3-0-decision-includes-shift-to-net-billing-new-transition-credit-and-grid-use-charge/#comment-123014 Thu, 30 Dec 2021 17:26:49 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=97013#comment-123014 In reply to Joseph Carrano.

Yeah, but then in the winter where I live I would run out of solar and be freezing. I need the power grid from Dec – March. The rest of the year, I make my own power. But those four months, I don’t have enough, even if I had battery storage. I’d have to add more panels, and I maxed out my best spot already.

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By: Parry Jarman https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/12/cpucs-proposed-nem-3-0-decision-includes-shift-to-net-billing-new-transition-credit-and-grid-use-charge/#comment-122085 Fri, 17 Dec 2021 17:46:16 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=97013#comment-122085 The Grid Participation Charge of $8.00/kW in NEM 3.0 is a clear violation of Section 5 of the Federal Trade Commissions Act, which bans “unfair methods of competition” under both the Horizontal & Single Firm Conduct.
Horizontal Conduct – It is illegal for businesses to act together in ways that can limit competition, lead to higher prices, or hinder other businesses from entering the market. The FTC challenges unreasonable horizontal restraints of trade. Such agreements may be considered unreasonable when competitors interact to such a degree that they are no longer acting independently, or when collaborating gives competitors the ability to wield market power together. Certain acts are considered so harmful to competition that they are almost always illegal. These include arrangements to fix prices, divide markets, or rig bids.

Single Firm Conduct – It is unlawful for a company to monopolize or attempt to monopolize trade, meaning a firm with market power cannot act to maintain or acquire a dominant position by excluding competitors or preventing new entry. It is important to note that it is not illegal for a company to have a monopoly, to charge “high prices,” or to try to achieve a monopoly position by aggressive methods. A company violates the law only if it tries to maintain or acquire a monopoly through unreasonable methods.

I’ll be working with the FTC to take action to stop and prevent the Grid Participation Charge provision of NEM 3.0 before this goes into effect.

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By: John Clothier https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/12/cpucs-proposed-nem-3-0-decision-includes-shift-to-net-billing-new-transition-credit-and-grid-use-charge/#comment-122072 Fri, 17 Dec 2021 14:13:33 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=97013#comment-122072 Another case where working folks have to bail out those outrageous pensions. Elect Unions got us over a barrel via these govt agencies (also run by union employees, with THEIR agenda to grow)

As several have suggested, instead of these shell games, the largest 21st century incentive should be for 100% disconnection. Our old, overhead distribution lines, being serviced at outrageous cost, are the REAL problem. It can only get worse. On a hot Calif day, maybe half of our electric bill is paying for adding heat to the atmosphere, via transmission losses.

The Calif energy discussions should be about improved insulation and more efficient appliances. Instead of penalizing solar homeowners with patchwork, how about penalizing folks who install home a/c units over 2 tons? Installation of distribution panels over 100A, in new construction, is inexcusable, with today’s insulation and appliance inverter technology.

There should be a large incentive, more than LEED, to development of new tracts that are fire resistant and energy efficient. The microgrid (and distribution underground!) may be the future.

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By: Allan Timko https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/12/cpucs-proposed-nem-3-0-decision-includes-shift-to-net-billing-new-transition-credit-and-grid-use-charge/#comment-122028 Fri, 17 Dec 2021 00:02:07 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=97013#comment-122028 In response to SOLARMAN 12/13/21 629pm: “That “up to 150% of historical load”, I believe will be found out to be a lie for many customers. When I first applied with my local utility for a solar PV system, the overall energy out into the grid was ‘limited’ to something like 27% of the transformer feeding the property, so the actual system was smaller than what was first proposed. ” // I do Solar PV Utility Policy Research in 23 States & track over 700 Utilities. What I have noticed over the years is that when the policy is traditional Net Metering, the offset/coverage allowed is 100% of 12mo historical Usage, Then when the policy changes to Worse for the consumer; “BuyAll SellAll” or “Net Energy Metering” credit for excess kWh at wholesale avoided cost, the allowed coverage limit is no longer much of a concern to the Utilities. /// On another note the $8/kW installed Solar PV is outrageous!! ( aka Grid Access Charge) I have never seen any higher. This looks like the same tactic that Utilities use when renewing their Rate Case, They ask for Extreme High amounts, knowing that if they get permission for even 1/3 to 1/2 of that; they will be happy and will have yet another Tariff line item to cry over and jack up next time. // I also feel the timing of the 30day public input (mid Dec to mid Jan) is suspect/odd time of the year. I enjoy all of your posts.

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By: Robert https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/12/cpucs-proposed-nem-3-0-decision-includes-shift-to-net-billing-new-transition-credit-and-grid-use-charge/#comment-122021 Thu, 16 Dec 2021 21:55:35 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=97013#comment-122021 It won’t be too long before better refrigerators and air conditioners will make it unnecessary to hook up to the grid at all. If I were building a new house in California I would wire it primarily for 12 or 24 VDC and have a good size solar array and a lithium iron phosphate battery with a 120 VAC inverter for the loads I couldn’t power from 12VDC. I would also super insulate it and then forget about hooking up to the Utility at all.

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By: Dorn Hetzel https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/12/cpucs-proposed-nem-3-0-decision-includes-shift-to-net-billing-new-transition-credit-and-grid-use-charge/#comment-122012 Thu, 16 Dec 2021 18:57:27 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=97013#comment-122012 The absolute solution for some customers will be to get off the grid entirely, or entirely except for emergency backup… Store solar power in on-site batteries instead of selling it back to the grid. Let them get the behavior they incent…

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By: Robert Brown https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/12/cpucs-proposed-nem-3-0-decision-includes-shift-to-net-billing-new-transition-credit-and-grid-use-charge/#comment-122010 Thu, 16 Dec 2021 17:57:46 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=97013#comment-122010 I guess California wants to kill it’s solar program. This is a great way to do it just penalize all the people that have solar.

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By: william fitch https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/12/cpucs-proposed-nem-3-0-decision-includes-shift-to-net-billing-new-transition-credit-and-grid-use-charge/#comment-122009 Thu, 16 Dec 2021 17:39:02 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=97013#comment-122009 Another aspect is during high Summer usage, all the distributed RE keeps the utilities from paying super high KWH rates to the grid service providers, the entity all electric utilities have to pay for each KWH they gen and put across the grid.

Ironically, it was the high grid provider rates charged to the utilities during Summer, that initially got the utilities on board for distributed energy. They were more than happy to pay a small amount of money for the establishment of solar PV, to keep them from paying the grid providers 1$ per KWH and up for Summer peaking. But that little spice to flavor their meal do to global warming, has become a mouth on fire that needs to be put out. Welcome to killing solar in CA. This outcome will be used as a “test case” for RE, just like not allowing women the ability to control their own bodies in TX.

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By: Hugh https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/12/cpucs-proposed-nem-3-0-decision-includes-shift-to-net-billing-new-transition-credit-and-grid-use-charge/#comment-122008 Thu, 16 Dec 2021 17:34:09 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=97013#comment-122008 If the problem is support for the grid infrastructure, then charge everyone the same connection fee. Perhaps it should be scaled to the size of your connection e.g. 100A service, 200A service…., However, if you are supplying distributed electricity to a distributed load, then you are reducing the needed investment in grid capacity. Sounds like to me that IOU utilities want guaranteed payment for their grid capacity regardless of need.
TOU billing and payment sounds good too, but that increases “grid” costs everyone for the smarter meters.

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By: william fitch https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/12/cpucs-proposed-nem-3-0-decision-includes-shift-to-net-billing-new-transition-credit-and-grid-use-charge/#comment-122007 Thu, 16 Dec 2021 17:24:28 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=97013#comment-122007 What they are doing is the same thing the Telecoms did. Convert from a charge by usage model to a pay to play scheme. The solar penalty fee (grid connect charge) is crazy in a world that is trying to promote RE as fast as possible. Distributed production allows them to put off infrastructure changes for high load (Solar reduces it) along with an easier way to make the grid more resilient. All that benefits them from an engineering perspective. But it’s not about engineering is it. Its about the utilities maintaining their profit margins currently under demand destruction by all distributed RE. Profit over everything.
Again, follow the money.

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By: Kelly Pickerel https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/2021/12/cpucs-proposed-nem-3-0-decision-includes-shift-to-net-billing-new-transition-credit-and-grid-use-charge/#comment-121957 Wed, 15 Dec 2021 21:07:34 +0000 https://www.solarpowerworldonline.com/?p=97013#comment-121957 In reply to James Cunningham.

R2008020

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